Lets Talk haste!
Since joining my new Guild Reawaken, I finally ran into a person I can chat with ingame about extensive moonkin theorycrafting. He brought up several good points which made me look at what we will be talking about today. Haste!
Moonkins love haste. Its like crack to us, but of course we like other stuff to. Its good to keep both even though (crit and Haste and not over stack one or the other). At the current point in the game, people are at 530-600 haste. Some people may not see how they do it, but others do. These people are also still dishing out some good damage. With Uldar around the corner, we need to start looking at the values again.
For those who don't know..the global cooldown for casters with no haste is 1.5 seconds. Haste can lower your global to 1 second. For Moonkin, 1 second starfires will make baby raptor jesus cry.
The basic haste forumal is as follows:
New Casting Time = (Base Casting Time)/(1 + (% Spell Haste / 100))
At level 80, we need 32.79 points of haste per 1%. A few points to keep in mind are as follows:
Moonkin have 6% haste from talents which: 32.79x6%=196.74
The Haste Cap/Global Cooldown Cap = 1639.5 (for 50%) based off Wow Wiki
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So, lets just say Uldar gear gives us around 700 haste. If we decide to say that bloodlust can be converted into haste, then it would become 987.3 haste rating.
So we'd take that and end up with this:
700+ 983.7= 1683.7
Adding a bit more into it, we will add our hidden haste from talents which is 6%..Remember, it takes 32.79 for 1% of haste, so it comes out to 196.74. So even with bloodlust, haste, and your hidden haste; you will have 1880.44 which is 200+ haste over the cap. This will cause clipping issues. Starfire before a crit will be 1.5 seconds. Nature's grace doesn't add itself from what I know if you are already at the cap (due to clipping issues)
So, with our hidden haste, Normal Haste, Bloodlust, and speed potion you would have the following:
196.74+983.7+700+500= 2380.4
Now, that is IF Bloodlust acted like that type of mechanic, but it doesn't.
So lets go on to another part. If your desired casting time is 1.5 seconds (starfire) then:
"desired casting time" = 1.5 seconds, ((3/1.5)-1)*32.79*100
So, you'd need a 3279 haste rating to yank SF down to clip the GCD not 16**
Since the cap on 1 second is 16** from Wow Wiki..we must keep in mind that it would only lower Starfire to a 2 second cast (which we see when we just get bloodlust..and it gets lower with haste pot)
So, going off these stats, A haste pot is still good during a bloodlust. If you are curious...
So to get SF to have a cast of exactly 1 second, it would be 6558 haste, assuming WoWWiki's formula is correct.
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So thank you to all the moonkins at the Repository for sitting down and chatting with me about this math. As well as Badeggplant and Atavus.
Since joining my new Guild Reawaken, I finally ran into a person I can chat with ingame about extensive moonkin theorycrafting. He brought up several good points which made me look at what we will be talking about today. Haste!
Moonkins love haste. Its like crack to us, but of course we like other stuff to. Its good to keep both even though (crit and Haste and not over stack one or the other). At the current point in the game, people are at 530-600 haste. Some people may not see how they do it, but others do. These people are also still dishing out some good damage. With Uldar around the corner, we need to start looking at the values again.
For those who don't know..the global cooldown for casters with no haste is 1.5 seconds. Haste can lower your global to 1 second. For Moonkin, 1 second starfires will make baby raptor jesus cry.
The basic haste forumal is as follows:
New Casting Time = (Base Casting Time)/(1 + (% Spell Haste / 100))
At level 80, we need 32.79 points of haste per 1%. A few points to keep in mind are as follows:
Moonkin have 6% haste from talents which: 32.79x6%=196.74
The Haste Cap/Global Cooldown Cap = 1639.5 (for 50%) based off Wow Wiki
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So, lets just say Uldar gear gives us around 700 haste. If we decide to say that bloodlust can be converted into haste, then it would become 987.3 haste rating.
So we'd take that and end up with this:
700+ 983.7= 1683.7
Adding a bit more into it, we will add our hidden haste from talents which is 6%..Remember, it takes 32.79 for 1% of haste, so it comes out to 196.74. So even with bloodlust, haste, and your hidden haste; you will have 1880.44 which is 200+ haste over the cap. This will cause clipping issues. Starfire before a crit will be 1.5 seconds. Nature's grace doesn't add itself from what I know if you are already at the cap (due to clipping issues)
So, with our hidden haste, Normal Haste, Bloodlust, and speed potion you would have the following:
196.74+983.7+700+500= 2380.4
Now, that is IF Bloodlust acted like that type of mechanic, but it doesn't.
So lets go on to another part. If your desired casting time is 1.5 seconds (starfire) then:
"desired casting time" = 1.5 seconds, ((3/1.5)-1)*32.79*100
So, you'd need a 3279 haste rating to yank SF down to clip the GCD not 16**
Since the cap on 1 second is 16** from Wow Wiki..we must keep in mind that it would only lower Starfire to a 2 second cast (which we see when we just get bloodlust..and it gets lower with haste pot)
So, going off these stats, A haste pot is still good during a bloodlust. If you are curious...
So to get SF to have a cast of exactly 1 second, it would be 6558 haste, assuming WoWWiki's formula is correct.
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So thank you to all the moonkins at the Repository for sitting down and chatting with me about this math. As well as Badeggplant and Atavus.
